Thursday, August 19, 2010

Mosque Supporters Want WHO To Speak Out?

You might not want to be drinking coffee or anything right this moment. Why? Well, when I tell you just who the mosque supporters want to come out in support of building the mosque 60 feet from Ground Zero, whatever beverage you're consuming may end up on your computer screen. Okay. Ready?

George W. Bush. No, really - I'm serious. They want George W. Bush to weigh in on the building of this particular mosque near Ground Zero. Would I lie to you? No. And wait until you see who a couple of the writers are requesting Bush's input in this Byron York article in the Washington Examiner, "Mosque supporters beg George W. Bush to come to Obama's rescue":
It's time for W. to weigh in," writes the New York Times' Maureen Dowd. Bush, Dowd explains, understands that "you can't have an effective war against the terrorists if it is a war on Islam." Dowd finds it "odd" that Obama seems less sure on that matter. But to set things back on the right course, she says, "W. needs to get his bullhorn back out" -- a reference to Bush's famous "the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!" speech at Ground Zero on September 14, 2001.

Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson is also looking for an assist from Bush. "I…would love to hear from former President Bush on this issue," Robinson wrote Tuesday in a Post chat session. "He held Ramadan iftar dinners in the White House as part of a much broader effort to show that our fight against the al-Qaeda murderers who attacked us on 9/11 was not a crusade against Islam. He was absolutely right on this point, and it would be helpful to hear his views."

And Peter Beinart, a former editor of the New Republic, is also feeling some nostalgia for the former president. "Words I never thought I'd write: I pine for George W. Bush," Beinart wrote Tuesday in The Daily Beast. "Whatever his flaws, the man respected religion, all religion." Beinart longs for the days when Bush "used to say that the 'war on terror' was a struggle on behalf of Muslims, decent folks who wanted nothing more than to live free like you and me…"

Come on, isn't that hilarious? These are the same people who vilified Bush routinely, routinely!!! And now, now that the man they supported after consuming massive amounts of Kool Aide, and smoking tons of Hopium, and shoved down our throats, refusing to do any vetting whatsoever, has made such a mess of this issue, they want BUSH to weigh in? This is one of the funniest things I have heard in a while. Maureen Dowd?? Eugene ROBINSON?? Oh, wow.

Well, someone else who has weighed in is Debra Burlingame, from the 9/11 Families. Did she ever have something to say, especially about Madam Speaker Pelosi's remarks about funding:

Well, Ms. Burlingame certainly didn't mince words. Agree with her or not, there is no misunderstanding from where she is coming on this issue.

There is one group from whom we have not heard on this whole mosque business. And that would be moderate Muslims. What is their take on Imam Rauf's building the mosque near Ground Zero? They, too, are quite clear: don't build it. That is the upshot of this Daily Caller article by Caroline May, "Moderate Muslims Oppose Location of Cordoba Mosque - On Religious Grounds." This article is well worth the read, but a few salient quotes:
[snip] Tarek Fatah, founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress, told TheDC that moderate Muslims have been silent on the matter, despite possible disagreements, due to religious concerns. According to Fatah, however, the need to avoid causing another person pain should trump such conflicts.

“There is a widespread belief among Muslim teaching that anyone who opposes the construction of a mosque, which is the house of God, is committing a sin,” he said. “So a lot of people who want to voice their opinion do not want to become a part of the controversy. But especially during the month of Ramadan it is important that our actions not cause pain to anyone. Any action by a Muslim that causes any pain to anyone else should be halted!” [snip]

That explains a lot - the widespread belief, that is. It helps to know why moderate Muslims have been quiet throughout this discussion. There is more:
Fatah believes the mosque plans are moving forward because they have the support of the American government. “I think they have an official green light either from the State Department or the White House telling them to, ‘Go ahead, you have our full backing,’ and they want to use this Islamic center as a place for diplomacy to the Middle East to demonstrate that the United States is a place where Muslims thrive. But that has backfired because this could have been done in many other ways.”

Jasser said that the building of this mosque is ‘fitna,’ a religious term meaning mischief-making, which is severely frowned upon in Islam. “‘Fitna’ is anything that causes chaos in society,” he said. “This mosque is causing chaos, it is causing ‘fitna’ and that is not the Islamic thing to do … This is ‘fitna’ and ‘fitna’ is wrong.”

Fatah agreed saying that ‘fitna’ is an ethical and moral issue that ought not be taken lightly. “If a step taken by an individual causes disharmony then it is ‘fitna.’ [The mosque] has caused so much pain. There are many mosques already in New York, nobody has ever opposed a mosque, if there is opposition to a mosque on grounds of hatred I would be the first to confront it. But over here it is a matter of sensitivity and there is no residential community even near the community center.” [snip] (Click here to read the rest.)

"Mischief-making." Yes, that seems to be a good term for what Imam Rauk is doing, along with Obama, I might add. And yes, the State Department sending Imam Rauf on a tour of the Middle East on our dime, at a cost of $16,000, certainly appears to condone the building the mosque by essentially endorsing Rauf.

But Fatah said it all. This is not about hatred. It is about sensitivity (about which I wrote recently, too). This decision is causing pain, to a number of people. Two thirds of New Yorkers oppose building the mosque there. Two thirds of Americans oppose building the mosque within two blocks of Ground Zero. Not because they/we/I oppose building mosques in general, but because we oppose it being built THERE, overlooking where Ground Zero stands, a hallowed ground to New Yorkers, to our nation.

George W. Bush can say something or not, doesn't really matter to me. As far as I am concerned, the opposition is about sensitivity to those who lost loved ones, and to a nation that suffered a devastating attack there. It is not a matter of "freedom of religion," or "freedom to practice religion." It is about ceasing the mischief making, an "ethical and moral issue" of some weight.

I think that pretty much says it all, don't you?


Marylee said...

'Madam' Nancy Pelosi's Brothel

The real 'Madam' in Washington DeCeased wants to investigate law-abiding citizens who oppose the Ground Zero mosque!
This is Pelosi's way to muddy the waters and draw attention away from her Marxist comrades with their criminal bent.
What she really wants to divert attention away from is the literal sex brothel she's sworn to protect and defend in her San Francisco district!
Think I'm kidding? Just Google "Madam Nancy Pelosi's brothel district" which is in the latest version of "Imam Bloomberg's Sharia Mosque."
Nancy reminds me of an Egyptian travel poster: SEE NILE!

A Kansas Patriot (who won FIRST PLACE in a nationwide Americanism Essay Contest!)

[snippet above seen on the web]

Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy said...

Marylee, I cannot believe I used to be glad that Nancy Pelosi was the first woman Speaker of the House. Those days are long, long gone...

And good one abt the travel poster! :-)

SFIndie said...

You know we're in trouble when the liberals want to call on GWB!! Interesting that they assume he'll support the building of the mosque. Ohhh, I DO hope he speaks up against it!

Pelosi's botox treatments have leaked into her brain and she is no longer competent to represent anyone as a member of Congress, ESPECIALLY as Speaker. I, too, was once ecstatic that she was Speaker. I'm not too proud to say it...I was WRONG!!!

What I'd like to know is, what is Pelosi, et al getting in return for their support of this mosque? What money will find its sneaky untraceable way into their coffers? Who is promising them votes, fraudulent or legal?

It's pretty sad that their religion prohibits Muslims from speaking against the building of a mosque, and so they have to be silent even if they don't agree. So, there's just a snippet of a religion that does not allow a follower to speak their truth. I'm not sure what's moderate about that.

And, it seems rather contradictory to me that the religion forbids speaking out against the building of a mosque, yet the builders of this mosque are invoking their right to free speech and freedom of religion to build something that is not creating peace and understanding but pain and divisiveness.

I'm sure it would all make sense if my Unicorn would show up with my serving of kool-aid.

Is it Montserrat time yet???

Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy said...

SF, I know - isn't it just remarkable? If anyone of us had said even a month ago that Eugene Robinson would be calling on Dubya to speak out on something, there would be some accusation of some Hopium smoking made, It is just astonishing, isn't it?

What is UP with Nancy? Can she even open her mouth without saying something not just ludicrous, but, dare I say it, anti-American? I mean, really - the Speaker of the House is questioning Americans exercising their right to free speech? Wow. Some obedience to the Constitution there, Nancy.

I wonder just how much grief these moderates are going to get for speaking out. It was courageous of them - and that says something right there, doesn't it?


Montserrat cannot come soon enough. Neither can 2012.