Monday, April 5, 2010

Obama Opposed This As Senator: Embraced As President

I know, I know, that could be any number of things. Obama has, as many of us knew he would, morphed into George W. Bush. Not this his followers will ever admit it, but those of us in the "reality-based community" have eyes to see who he really is. Just look at his recent flip flopping backtrack on Offshore Drilling, and the machinations his people go through to support these wild swings. What he said as a Senator is mighty different from what he has said as president. What a shock.

But Obama has even bigger problems than his reversal on Offshore Drilling. And that is the recent ruling that the court has made on wiretapping. Now, MANY of us were furious with Bush for doing this, and thought it was unconstitutional. Guess what? We were right, as this NY Times article, "Court Ruling on Wiretap Is a Challenge for Obama," spells out:
As a presidential candidate, Senator Barack Obama declared that it was “unconstitutional and illegal” for the Bush administration to conduct warrantless surveillance of Americans. Many of his supporters said likewise.

But since Mr. Obama won the election, administration officials have avoided repeating that position. They have sidestepped questions about the legality of the program in Congressional testimony. And in lawsuits over the program, they followed a strategy intended to avoid ever answering the question by asking courts to dismiss the lawsuits because the litigation could reveal national security secrets.

But the ruling on Wednesday by a federal judge that one instance of such spying had been “unlawful electronic surveillance” may force onto the table a discussion of how aggressively the Obama administration should continue to defend from judicial review the contentious Bush-era counterterrorism policy.

David Golove, a New York University law professor who specializes in executive power issues, said the ruling had highlighted the “awkwardness” of the Obama administration’s ambivalent stance toward its predecessor’s surveillance program.

“They have a lot of discomfort with the legal arguments the Bush administration made, but they’ve tried to avoid having to acknowledge too publicly those differences or to air them in court,” he said.

Uh huh. Bush II, as I, and others, have written ad nauseum (honestly, I have written so many posts on the similarities and flip flops by Obama, I cannot list them all here). He was telegraphing how much he was like Bush at the same time he was demonizing him. Yet, his followers couldn't, or wouldn't, see the comparisons.

But they are definitely there:

[snip] There are some reasons that the administration might appeal, legal specialists said. Among them, it may not want Judge Walker’s narrow interpretation of the state secrets privilege to stand because it might influence other cases, and appealing on those narrow grounds would allow the administration to still avoid engaging on whether the program was legal.

In addition, the administration may fear political attacks from the right if it agrees to pay damages to the plaintiffs, which include an Islamic charity in Oregon, Al Haramain, which the government has said had links to Al Qaeda. (The charity is defunct and its assets are frozen, however.)

But several legal specialists said that the administration may instead want to let the ruling stand. That would terminate a case that has been a political headache for the administration since the month after Mr. Obama took office, when the Justice Department’s decision to keep pressing forward with the Bush administration’s assertion of the state secrets privilege in the matter created an uproar among liberals.

A decision not to appeal would also ensure that the ruling against the government went no higher than a district court judge’s decision, which — unlike one by an appeals court — would not set a binding precedent.

“This is a very hard decision for them,” said John P. Elwood, a Justice Department lawyer in the Bush administration. “The thing that makes it hard to appeal is that they apparently are of two minds about it and don’t want to be pinned down on what they think of it now, but also the fact that they might end up with just as bad a precedent from the court one rung up.”

Still, if the administration lets the judgment stand, Mr. Holder — who in 2008 said Mr. Bush had authorized the National Security Agency’s wiretapping program in “direct defiance of federal law” — would be left with a ruling from a federal judge that such warrantless wiretapping by government officials was illegal. That could prompt calls to begin a criminal investigation. It is a felony to violate the surveillance law requiring warrants.

“Despite the government trying to throw up every procedural roadblock imaginable in this case, the judge has ruled that the Bush administration broke the law,” Senator Russ Feingold, a Wisconsin Democrat who is on both the Senate Judiciary and Intelligence Committees, said Thursday.

And there you have it. So, now the Obushma Administration has the decision to make of appeal, or let stand the ruling:

Most of the lawsuits brought against the government over the program in the past have faltered because the plaintiffs could not prove that they were spied upon.

But Jon Eisenberg, a lawyer for Al Haramain, observed Thursday that if Mr. Holder chose to open a criminal investigation, he could easily obtain all the evidence of wrongdoing he needed.

“If Holder wanted to be really aggressive, he could go into the Justice Department’s files and pick out some of the people who were wiretapped and prosecute those cases,” Mr. Eisenberg said. “But do they want to do that? No. The Obama administration made a decision a long time ago that they are not going to prosecute Bush’s warrantless wiretapping program.”

Mr. Holder already faced a similar decision over whether to investigate Central Intelligence Agency interrogators who conducted harsh interrogations of detainees during the Bush years despite antitorture laws.

But Mr. Holder decided not to investigate any interrogators for conduct that at the time had been blessed as lawful by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel. That office wrote similar memorandums declaring that warrantless surveillance was lawful, and Mr. Golove, the New York University law professor, said that precedent was likely to be repeated.

“I assume Holder would say there is the same rationale — if they were acting under Office of Legal Counsel authority, we’re not going to investigate them,” he said. “Does he have to announce that? I don’t know — it depends on how much political pressure is brought to bear.”

Sure will be interesting to see how Obama and Holder decide to play this off, won't it?

At this point, I planned to grab a video on Obama's Flip Flops, but I cannot begin to tell you how many there were at YouTube. I'm not kidding - go put it in, and you'll get a ton of them.

But this one is pretty darn good - and it was done a year and a half ago before the election:

Just think how many more Flips and Flops Obama has made since then. His followers will shrug and say it's different now. We know better, though. The flips and flops are mighty numerous, with the illegal wiretapping being just one. Feel free to list the many others!


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Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy said...


Anonymous said...

“The thing that makes it hard to appeal is that they apparently are of two minds about it and don’t want to be pinned down on what they think of it now,..."

This administration is apparently of two minds about EVERYTHING. Just depends on what month it is. Or day of the week. Or hour of the day. Or maybe what they had for breakfast.

Watching the machinations of this government is like watching an accident happen in slow motion; you can see it unfold but can do nothing to stop it.

And all those damn kool-aid drinkers just guzzle more, put their special Obamashades on, and dance around the maypole waiting for their Unicorns to appear with their Obamacheck tied in a pretty yellow ribbon around the Unicorn's neck.

On another note, so very sad about the 25 miners who lost their lives, and the 4 still trapped. I wonder how The Pretender will somehow use this tragedy as yet another way to promote his Health Insurance Stimulus Package.

Montserrat...always on my mind!

Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy said...

Hey, SF -

First, yes, my thoughts and prayers go out to those in WVA who lost loved ones in that horrible mining accident, and those who are still trapped (in my cold and fever induced state, I forgot to add that to my most recent post here - I did at NQ, but what can I say? My head is a solid block of sinus bleh.). So sad...

You said it all abt Obama and his Admin - he's just like Two Face in Batman, isn't he? Amazing. And every day, it's something new, or so it seems...

Great comment!

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Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy said...

Thanks, SF - it's all my partner's fault! :-) She came home sick from a recent business trip, and passed it along...I haven't been sick in MONTHS, and now here I am, sick when I have my adorable grandnephew. Sheesh!

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