Thursday, July 14, 2011

Guess Who Hates Us Even More Now Than When Bush Was President?

The French? Well, they might, but no, that's not who I mean. The British? Well, most likely, especially they way Obama has dissed them (like sending back the bust of Churchill, and that is the mere tip of the iceberg)?

Nope. The Arab World. Yep, that's right, even after Obama's bowing and scraping to them, whether it was to Saudi King Abdullah, or the Egyptians after his Cairo speech. Yes, we have lost even more standing in the world now.(Photo found at Atlas Shrugs.)

Indeed, despite Obama's numerous overtures to the Arab world, seems they aren't too happy with us. Glenn Greenwald had this article in Salon, US More Unpopular In Arab World Than Under Bush:
I've written numerous times over the last year about rapidly worsening perceptions of the U.S. in the Muslim world, including a Pew poll from April finding that Egyptians view the U.S. more unfavorably now than they did during the Bush presidency. A new poll released today of six Arab nations -- Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Morocco -- contains even worse news on this front:
The hope that the Arab world had not long ago put in the United States and President Obama has all but evaporated.

Two and a half years after Obama came to office, raising expectations for change among many in the Arab world, favorable ratings of the United States have plummeted in the Middle East, according to a new poll conducted by Zogby International for the Arab American Institute Foundation.

In most countries surveyed, favorable attitudes toward the United States dropped to levels lower than they were during the last year of the Bush administration . . . Pollsters began their work shortly after a major speech Obama gave on the Middle East . . . Fewer than 10 percent of respondents described themselves as having a favorable view of Obama.

What's striking is that none of these is among the growing list of countries we're occupying and bombing. Indeed, several are considered among the more moderate and U.S.-friendly nations in that region, at least relatively speaking. Yet even in this group of nations, anti-U.S. sentiment is at dangerously (even unprecedentedly) high levels.

Yikes. That is not good. If we were talking Libya, or Iran, this would not be surprising news. But that some of the ones who think less of us now among our friendlier nations is disturbing on a number of levels.

Greenwald continues:
In one sense, this is hardly surprising, given the escalating violence and bombing the U.S. is bringing to that region, its ongoing fealty to Israel, and the dead-ender support the American government gave to that region's besieged dictators. Though unsurprising, it's still remarkable. After all, one of the central promises of an Obama presidency was a re-making of America in the eyes of that part of the world, but the opposite is taking place.

More significantly, as democracy slowly but inexorably takes hold, consider the type of leaders that will be elected in light of this pervasive anti-American hostility. When the U.S. propped up dictators to suppress those populations, public opinion was irrelevant; now that that scheme is collapsing, public opinion will become far more consequential, and it does not bode well either for U.S. interests (as defined by the American government) or the U.S.'s ability to extract itself from its posture of Endless War in that region. Given that it is anti-American sentiment that, more than anything else, fuels Terrorism (as the Pentagon itself has long acknowledged), we yet again find the obvious truth: the very policies justified in the name of combating Terrorism are the same ones that do the most to sustain and perpetuate it.

That is precisely the issue, as we have seen in Egypt already. All of the jubilation that this small band of people were able to stage a coup (still don't know how that happened), and that democracy was coming to Egypt, downplayed the possibility that the Muslim Brotherhood was going to be a big part of the new government. Guess what, they are. And now, our esteemed Secretary of State would welcome dialogue with this group:
"We believe, given the changing political landscape in Egypt, that it is in the interests of the United States to engage with all parties that are peaceful and committed to nonviolence, that intend to compete for the parliament and the presidency," she told reporters in Budapest, Hungary. "And we welcome, therefore, dialogue with those Muslim Brotherhood members who wish to talk with us." [snip]

Um, the Muslim Brotherhood has waged jihad against the United State, which spawned Hamas`, which works to impose the law of the Quran (that would be Sharia Law), and which treats women as worse than shit. To characterize it as a "committed to nonviolence" is laughable on its face. And now we are giving it legitimacy. Great job, everyone. Wow.

Believe it or not, there is more:
UPDATE: The full report on the new Middle East poll highlights several other additional striking findings:

In five out of the six countries surveyed, the U.S. was viewed less favorably than Turkey, China, France -- or Iran. Far from seeing the U.S. as a leader in the post-Arab Spring environment, the countries surveyed viewed "U.S. interference in the Arab world" as the greatest obstacle to peace and stability in the Middle East, second only to the continued Palestinian occupation. . . . President Obama's favorable ratings across the Arab world are 10% or less.

While Americans are continuously inculcated with the message that Iran is the greatest threat to that region, the people who actually live there view the U.S. in that light. And as the above-referenced links to other polls demonstrate, that is a routine finding in surveys of Arab and Muslim opinion in that part of the world.[snip] (Click here to read the rest.)

Good grief. You know it is bad when Iran is thought of more highly than the United States. That just boggles the mind, doesn't it?

Two and a half years after the president who has alienated Israel, our ally; threw former ally Mubarak under the bus; and literally bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, the United States has lost standing with Arab Nations. I admit, I did not see this one coming. How about you? Copyright © 2011 by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy


Stray Yellar Dawg? said...

Wow. I thought Obama's election was supposed to heal all wounds where Arab nations are concerned??

Right after it turned back the tide of global climate change...

Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy said...

ROTFLMAO, SYD - I know, right (I still cannot believe even Obama had the sheer hubris to claim the rise of the oceans would cease, or whatever BS he spewed)?

If you have time, go check out some of the comments at Salon. I swear, I had to check I was really at the Salon site considering some of the things people were saying (and I still cannot believe he is doing so well in the polls - WHO are they asking??). Like this one: Arab and Muslims are entitled to

Arab and Muslims are entitled to precisely the same disappointments and sense of betrayal of hope as progressive Americans. Obama "talks" a good campaign game but governs like the prior administrators of empire. All would be well advised to not listen to the speeches but rather read the words and watch the actions. He sought election based upon hope for change. He seeks re-election based upon fear. It is becoming increasingly difficult to tell the difference between what Barak Obama does and what Dick Cheney would do. Unfortunately we have no "true" anti-war candidate. All we had was one who played one for television four years ago.

Or this one: Scorecard: President Barack "Seven Wars" Obama

Objective: remake the perceptions of the U.S. in the Arab world / Middle East.

Method: Increased belligerence, bombast, corruption, and croneyism, allied to massive and pervasive propaganda offensive, random military incursions.

Result: perceptions of the US in that sphere falling to historic lows, not seen since the Crusades.


Oh well, there's always 2012 ...

Stray Yellar Dawg? said...

I wish I could feel compassion for the disappointed posters ar Salon.

Sadly, I feel only anger. At their ignorance and willingness to be manipulated.

Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy said...

Right there with ya, SYD. Well said!