Friday, May 6, 2011

Seems Some Folks Aren't Happy About Bin Laden's Death

That would be Hamas, and the Muslim Brotherhood, to name just two.

Yep, Hamas has "condemned" the killing:
While many Middle East leaders welcomed America’s military action, the mixed reaction across the region cast a shadow over both the “Arab Spring” and the future of talks between Israel and the Palestinians.


The Hamas prime minister of the Gaza strip, Ismail Haniya, said: “We condemn the assassination of a Muslim and Arab warrior and we pray to God that his soul rests in peace.

“We regard this as the continuation of the American oppression and shedding of blood of Muslims and Arabs.”

The Hamas reaction put it immediately at odds with Mahmoud Abbas, the leader of the Palestinian Authority, with which it is due to sign a unity deal today to join the Palestinian government.

Oops. Still, good to know where they stand, isn't it? Not that I really expected anything different from Hamas.

And how about its parent organization, the Muslim Brotherhood? (And yes, Hamas grew out of the Muslim Brotherhood as its "political arm in December 1987...") Well, this headline pretty much says it all:
Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood Sticks With Bin Laden Uh, yeah. That does pretty much say it all, but of course, you know there is more, beginning with the lovely slogan behind the head of Mohamed Badie below:

Mohamed Badie, the leader of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, talks during a news conference in Cairo on November 30, 2010. The banner in the background reads: "Islam is the solution." By Amr Dalsh/Reuters

Oh, yes - they are such a moderate group, that Brotherhood, aren't they? Ahem.

Back to the article:
[snip] Most of yesterday's headlines proclaiming the death of Osama bin Laden used epithets like "terror mastermind" or "bastard" to refer to the internationally feared mass murderer. (That latter headline is from the New York Post.) But in its first public statement on the killing of bin Laden, Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood used the honorific term "sheikh" to refer to the al-Qaeda leader. It also accused Western governments of linking Islam and terrorism, and defended "resistance" against the U.S. presence in Iraq and Afghanistan as "legitimate."

The Muslim Brotherhood's response to bin Laden's death may finally end the mythology -- espoused frequently in the U.S. -- that the organization is moderate or, at the very least, could moderate once in power. This is, after all, precisely how Muslim Brothers describe their creed -- "moderate," as opposed to al-Qaeda, which is radical. "Moderate Islam means not using violence, denouncing terrorism, and not working with jihadists," said Muslim Brotherhood youth activist Khaled Hamza, for whom the organization's embrace of "moderate Islam" was the primary reason he joined.

Yet the Muslim Brotherhood's promise that its "moderation" means rejecting violence includes a gaping exception: the organization endorses violence against military occupations, which its leaders have told me include Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Bosnia, and Palestine -- in other words, nearly every major conflict on the Eurasian continent. "I never fought in Afghanistan," Mehdi Akef, the former Supreme Guide of the Muslim Brotherhood, told me in January, just before the revolt. "But I encouraged them and sent money to Bosnia and Palestine until now." Muslim Brotherhood leaders have endorsed attacks on Israeli civilians as an exception to their no-violence-except-against-occupation exception, viewing all of Israel as an occupation. "Zionism is gangs," said Akef. "It's not a country. So we will resist them until they don't have a country."

Huh. So, let's recap - the Muslim Brotherhood fancies itself "moderate" because they are not "jihadists," yet they have a jihad against the United States, and think it is A-Okay to target Israeli civilians. But they are "moderates." Got it.

Get this, though - there are even more contradictions for the Muslim Brotherhood to deal with in its propaganda attempts. Oops, I mean, in stating their credo:
The attacks of September 11, 2001, however, created a real problem for the Muslim Brotherhood's paradigms, since it was a violent attack against civilians on territory that could not be considered occupied. Rather than denounce the attacks, however, the organization chose to argue, outrageously, that Islamists were not responsible.

In some cases, Muslim Brothers have simply expressed doubts about the "theory" that al-Qaeda was behind the attacks. "I don't believe it was jihadists. It was too big an operation," said Abdel Monem Aboul Fotouh, a former member of the Muslim Brotherhood Guidance Office who is often touted as one of the organization's reformers. "This was done by a country, not individuals. It's not a conspiracy theory -- it's just logical. They didn't bring this crime before the U.S. justice system until now. Why? Because it's part of a conspiracy."

Uh huh. So, even though Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda took credit for 9/11 (and a bunch of other attacks), we aren't to believe them, or retaliate for them because the Muslim Brotherhood thinks it's some cockamamie conspiracy theory? Hmm. How do I respond to that? Oh, I know - they can bite me.

Oh, but wait - it gets worse. Guess who they actually blame? This should not be a surprise:
More frequently, Muslim Brotherhood leaders blame a more predictable target. "The Jews and the Zionist lobby," Muslim Brotherhood legal thinker and former parliamentarian Sobhi Saleh declared to me one March afternoon in his Cairo office, when I asked him who was responsible for the attacks. "And this study is well-known in America and it's on the Internet. And a Christian preacher in Lebanon gave me a book on this at a conference. And it was a scientific research."

But of course, it's all Israel's fault. That's right. Sure it was. I mean, really, how can one disagree with such blinding logic? I jest - this is not logic. It's something (fill in the blank), but logic it ain't.

Finally, check out the Muslim Brotherhood's statement on the death of bin Laden. Pay close attention to their victim-hood claims:
[snip]"The whole world, and especially the Muslims, have lived with a fierce media campaign to brand Islam as terrorism and describe the Muslims as violent by blaming the September 11th incident on al-Qaeda." It then notes that "Sheikh Osama bin Laden" was assassinated alongside "a woman and one of his sons and with a number of his companions," going on to issue a rejection of violence and assassinations...


In a way, the Muslim Brotherhood's statement is vintage bin Laden: it's Muslim lands, not America, that are under attack; it's Muslims, not American civilians, who are the ultimate victims; and, despite two American presidents' genuine, effusive promises to the contrary, Islam is the target. It's an important indicator that despite its increased responsibility in post-Mubarak Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood may well remain deeply hostile toward even the one of the most basic and defensible of American interests in the Middle East -- that of securing Americans from terrorism. (Click here to read the rest.)

Indeed. Poor pitiful things - everyone is SO mean to them. Blech.

Their claims against violence are a bit of a stretch, are they not? Especially when Hamas is a part of this very organization, and they have declared Jihad against the USA, as well as violence against Israeli citizens. Honestly, though, it still boggles my mind how many Americans happily went along with this group taking over Egypt, and how many were even DEFENDING them. But you know, you just can't make some people see reason or accept facts. One would think, though, that as long as groups like this keep speaking up, those Americans who had/have no problem with the MB might just think again.

Hey, a woman can dream, can't she?


Mary Ellen said...

I don't think anything that Hamas says or does will convince that crazy progressive Obot crowd. They are convinced that Islam is a peaceful religion while they ignore the way they treat their women and young girls. They continually ignore the terrorist attacks and claim that they aren't what Islam is really about.

I think I heard today that Michael Moore was in the UK picketing the "execution" of Osama bin Laden.

Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy said...

Sadly, I think you are right, ME. No amt of proof to the contrary, no matter how many are killed, this will continue to be the meme. I just don't get it.

I mean, I am all for religious diversity (I am a UU, after all), but in the same manner we call out other groups for hateful practices, we should be able to do the same with Muslims who perpetrate violence due to their religious beliefs.

What I have realized over the past few years is that the Left really doesn't give a damn abt women and children. They (formerly, "we") talk a good game, but in reality, women are always the first to get cast aside. That is no different in terms of groups like Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Michael Moore - to think I used to like him. Did you see that the kids who were in the classroom with George Bush at the time of the 9/11 attacks said Moore got it COMPLETELY wrong with his depiction? What a surprise. He peddles lies as truth, and many are all too willing to believe it (I bought copies of "Fahrenheit 9/11," so I am guilty of that, as well. That was when I had my blinders on.).

Mary Ellen said...

I had the same blinders on, kiddo. I also bought "Fahrenheit 9/11," and gave it to my son. Although, I noticed the other day that he never took it out of the wrapper and it's still sitting on a stack of old video games. So,maybe there is hope for him yet.

You're right, women always get cast to the side and what really annoys the heck out of me is the women's groups like NOW that continue to back Obama and his ilk and go along with the "Progressive" agenda which is doing more harm to women than ever before in the last 100 years, imo.

Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy said...

Whew, ME - glad it wasn't just me! And interesting that your son never took the movie out of its wrapper. Yes, maybe there is hope after all.

I hear you abt the women's groups. It just aggravates me that they continue to allow women's issues to be backburnered for more pressing issues. Our issues are always last - they will get to them as soon as they take care of x, y, z...Yeah, right.

The other thing that gripes me are the relentless attacks against Conservatives for being opposed to abortion. They seem to forget - conveniently - that the Senate Majority leader is a Mormon, and had a very low rating from NARAL. There are lots of Dems who are opposed to abortion, but for some reason, they are never called out - it is only Republicans who must "hate women..." (And I am like Hillary - I believe they should be safe, legal, and rare.). There is just so much hypocrisy, and all to keep women toeing the line. I am over it.