tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post7784504606370916600..comments2023-09-20T11:31:54.194-04:00Comments on Rabble Rouser Ruminations: Why?Rabble Rouser Reverend Amyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14965609706204555067noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-23149169112074827032008-07-11T23:32:00.000-04:002008-07-11T23:32:00.000-04:00Oh, I agree - it is maddening indeed. I asked my ...Oh, I agree - it is maddening indeed. I asked my younger brother today point blank why he is supporting Obama. "He is articulate." "He is a Constitutional scholar!" "Hillary isn't even FROM NY, and she got elected there! And she just throws on a Yankees cap!" I told him that Hillary had ALWAYS been a Yankees and Cubbies fan. He acted like that was crap, and NO ONE could do both. I reminded him that one is a NATIONAL League team, the other AMERICAN league, and that I have two favorite teams, too (one in each). I told him there were photos of her as a kid with a Yankees cap on, dadgummit! And I asked him why he was repeating all of the Right Wing talking points abt her - after I queried if Obama's being "articulate" by using SOMEONE else's speech didn't bother him? Or his backtracking on Iraq? FISA?? (He did admit that bothered him some...) He also finally admitted that he thought the Right was too hard on Hillary when Bill was prez, but he has bought into that wholememe that Bill and Hillary are racists. I told him that was offensive - for all the reasons you know - her going to work for THe Children's Defense Fund, all of the work both have done for the AA community, they way Obama RACE-baited and accused the "First Black Prez" of being racist, all of that. It makes me SO mad the way Obama has tarninshed Bill Clinton's presidency. Grrr. Oh, and I told him that Clinton had done a TON for women and children, veterans (including the bill she got passed with our senator, Graham, here), Native Americans, et al. I don't think these people know this stuff because the damn media NEVER covered it!<BR/><BR/>I just have to hope, ME, that some little seed gets planted, and maybe, JUST maybe, they will look at him with a more critical eye - like they should have ages ago...Rabble Rouser Reverend Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14965609706204555067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-2176019174736227052008-07-11T16:16:00.000-04:002008-07-11T16:16:00.000-04:00OT: I have some quotes on my blog you might be int...OT: I have some quotes on my blog you might be interested in. Check out the one about Obama's new army.Mary Ellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07835150057881066641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-66716815961051637472008-07-11T14:01:00.000-04:002008-07-11T14:01:00.000-04:00Ooops, bold print was supposed to start at, "That ...Ooops, bold print was supposed to start at, "That may be what he wants you to believe..." <BR/><BR/>Sorry.Mary Ellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07835150057881066641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-54338515139609624742008-07-11T13:59:00.000-04:002008-07-11T13:59:00.000-04:00Amy- This is just a portion of what was written on...Amy- This is just a portion of what was written on a blog by an Obama supporter today. Now, this girl is a very nice person and I think the world of her. However, she really falls for the Obama line,hook and sinker. <BR/><BR/>She wrote about the Obama talking point about how he had no choice, he was thinking of the future and this is the ONLY way to make us safer. This was my reply to her post:<BR/><BR/>She wrote (in italics)<BR/><BR/><I>Obama may be looking at the big picture here - if the FISA bill didn't pass at all, many of the things being done to watch potential terrorists would end completely - leaving us vulnerable.</I><BR/><BR/>My reply (in bold print):<BR/><BR/>That may be what he wants you to believe,but it isn't true! By law, our government can still listen in on phone calls from terrorists, but they need a court order to do it. In fact, they could still do it and get the court order retroactive after, I think...73 hours, maybe more. What the FISA bill allows is for the government to do a sweep of listening to ANYONE they want, this includes you and I. They could also listen to communication from opposing political parties. If you recall...that's what Nixon was impeached for. If this FISA bill was in force then, he would have been within the law to do his break in.<BR/><BR/>Beyond the wiretap immunity, the language of this bill includes this:<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><B>ASSISTANCE--The term 'assistance' means the provision of, or the provision of access to, information... facilities, or another form of assistance<BR/><BR/>PERSON--The term 'person' means...a landlord, custodian, or other person who may be authorized and required to furnish assistance...<BR/><BR/>IN GENERAL--Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no civil action may lie or be maintained in a Federal or State court against any person for providing assistance to an element of the intelligence community, and shall be promptly dismissed, if the Attorney General certifies to the court that...any assistance by that person was provided pursuant to a directive under sections 102(a)(4), 105B(e)...<BR/><BR/>ELEMENT OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY--The term 'element of the intelligence community' means an element of the intelligence community as specified or designated under section 3(4) of the National Security Act... [Ed. Note: That includes the FBI, CIA, NSA, Homeland Security, the Defense Department, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the State Department, the Treasury Department, and any other agency the president chooses.]<BR/><BR/>Let's translate that. A hotel manager who lets FBI agents into a guest's room to copy a laptop's hard drive in secret would not be liable. An apartment manager who gives Homeland Security the key to a tenant's unit to place a key logger in a PC would not be liable. A private security firm that divulges a customer's alarm code would not be liable. A university that agrees to forward a student's e-mail messages to the Defense Department would not be liable. An antivirus company that helps the NSA implant spyware in an unsuspecting customer's computer would not be liable.<BR/><BR/>No court order is required. And if an eventual lawsuit accuses the hotel manager or antivirus firm of unlawful activities, it'll be thrown out of court as long as the attorney general or the director of national intelligence can provide a "certification." The "certification" is, of course, secret--all a judge may say publicly is that the rules were followed, and then dismiss the case.<BR/><BR/>Obama is supposed to be a lawyer and a Constitutional scholar, but I can tell you this, you don't need to be a Constitutional scholar to know that this is not Democracy and this is not an acceptable bill.<BR/><BR/>Please, please, please, do not fall for this stuff about how he said he would reach out to the "right". This isn't reaching out to anyone, it's going back on his word that he would be "different". Did he not say that he would protect the Constitution? How is this protecting it?<BR/><BR/>Going back on your word of the primary campaign trail once you think you've got the nomination secured is not being an agent of change, it's being dishonest.</B><BR/><BR/>************<BR/><BR/>Honestly, the Obama camp is using the same fear tactics as the GOP did, and isn't that exactly what they accused Hillary of doing during the campaign when she spoke of national security? But she never went back on her word and she always said that we can have national security without taking away American's rights of freedom. <BR/><BR/>Ugh...I wish the Obama supporters would quit making excuses for him and actually do some research! What is even more infuriating, is that no matter how much evidence or facts you give them, their eyes glaze over and they plug up their ears. It is maddening, I tell ya!Mary Ellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07835150057881066641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-39486978177727191972008-07-10T23:27:00.000-04:002008-07-10T23:27:00.000-04:00Hey there, ME!Wow - thank you so much! I am glad ...Hey there, ME!<BR/><BR/>Wow - thank you so much! I am glad you liked it. That means a lot to me!<BR/><BR/>Before I go any further, your blog today was HYSTERICAL!!! PErfect, just perfect!<BR/><BR/>I kinda got into it a little bit with my brother and sister-in-law, who are visitng (they just came today). They are both professors at a large state university, and support Obama. My mom suggested that maybe they just didn't know as much as people like you and me, and that does seem to be the case. I mean, they have heard ALL of the Obama talking points, and were able to regurgitate those pretty easily (like Hillary and Bosnia, in reponse to my mentioning Obama's parents being inspired to have him four years after the fact - the difference, of course, is that her comment was off the cuff, and his was in a book - presumably, one editors actually read first). BUT - they did NOT know abt SC, NH, and IA having primaries too early - or that 4 Dems had their names on the ballot in MI, an dto take their names OFF was an Obama ploy to embarrass Clinton since he knew he wouldn't win there. But, you know, there is just a different thought pattern - my brother said, "Well, it worked!" Along te lines of Obama "getting lucky" that he only had to run against Alan Keyes. I told him it had NOTHING to do with luck - it had to do with someone revealing a sealed divorce settlement right before the election. It just amazes me how quickly people, smart people, are qilling to just throw things away. Like the whole Faith Initiative - I mentioned that it was the SAME thing over which Progressives, myself included, went NUTS when Bush came up with it, and now Obama wants to EXPAND it?? C'mon already! Sheesh! <BR/><BR/>My s-in-l seems particularly concerned with not using the right to vote for a prez. I can understand that, but you know, I own my own vote, not the DNC. And while PREVIOUSLY they may have represented my interests more, they sure as hell don't now. Not with the way they have acted.<BR/><BR/>We just had to stop talking abt it. Who knows - maybe something got through so they will at least look a LITTLE more critically at what he is saying. Not holding my breath, though!<BR/><BR/>Great work over there at Bad Habits! Love it!Rabble Rouser Reverend Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14965609706204555067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-31129829449868792052008-07-10T21:30:00.000-04:002008-07-10T21:30:00.000-04:00Check this out, Amy...a blogger friend of mine sen...Check <A HREF="http://www.pledgednotbound.com/" REL="nofollow">this out</A>, Amy...a blogger friend of mine sent it to me.Mary Ellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07835150057881066641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-71144088076278373522008-07-10T13:42:00.000-04:002008-07-10T13:42:00.000-04:00Hi Amy...finally got back home. This post is amazi...Hi Amy...finally got back home. <BR/><BR/>This post is amazing, but then again, I keep saying that about all your posts because they are. But this one is even MORE amazing! You put into words the same frustration that all of us who were NEVER bamboozled by this actor of a candidate. <BR/><BR/>When I see Obamabots making excuses for Obama and saying that he doesn't really mean all these things he's said in the last few weeks. He really <I>i</I> a progressive, just like them, I WANT TO SCREAM! <BR/><BR/>Can they possibly be that stupid to think that Obama is not going to suck up all the power that Bush took away from Congress and keep it for himself? That is what this FISA vote is all about. HE wants to have the power to say who the government can listen to and who can't. HE wants the power to override his own party at his very whim.<BR/><BR/>What do you think the chances are that he will not abuse the executive privileges that Bush has in the past? Of course he will be writing all his own executive orders and adding what he wants onto every bill that crosses his desk. <BR/><BR/>But you know what? The immature Obamabots will continue to support him anyway. The black community will do so also, because he is the right color for the job, nevermind that he's not the right MAN for the job. <BR/><BR/>Oh...what a rant I just had, sorry. <BR/><BR/>And thank you so much for the kind words about my new blog. It's still a work in progress. Did you get a chance to see my Monty Python post, Three Questions? Just a little political snark, and of course, Hillary is the one to stump the gatekeeper cuz she's the only one with the brains. Also, notice that Obama is the knight who didn't want to go first and then went as soon as he saw the one before him get easy questions. Just like he copied all of Hillary's answers at the debate. ;-)Mary Ellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07835150057881066641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-54578811417483329642008-07-10T12:03:00.000-04:002008-07-10T12:03:00.000-04:00Hey!Thanks, ME - I wanted to tell you that I am AM...Hey!<BR/><BR/>Thanks, ME - I wanted to tell you that I am AMAZED at your new blog! It is AWESOME!! You are really up and running! WOW!!!<BR/><BR/>I really appreciate your support - you rock!Rabble Rouser Reverend Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14965609706204555067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-18891227521382290792008-07-10T10:48:00.000-04:002008-07-10T10:48:00.000-04:00Hi Amy! I'm on my way out the door and will get ba...Hi Amy! I'm on my way out the door and will get back to read this post this afternoon. I was hoping you would cover this sham of a vote by Obama! I just wrote a little satire thing on my blog post today with Obama. The guy is a joke. <BR/><BR/>Later, Amy!Mary Ellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07835150057881066641noreply@blogger.com