tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post5680467569125007298..comments2023-09-20T11:31:54.194-04:00Comments on Rabble Rouser Ruminations: Is He Kidding Or Just Unclear On The Concept?Rabble Rouser Reverend Amyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14965609706204555067noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-64870156292013538812009-02-12T15:28:00.000-05:002009-02-12T15:28:00.000-05:00Arturo, perhaps it is a difference in communicatio...Arturo, perhaps it is a difference in communication styles. I certainly understand abt peer review, but ordinarily, one doesn't claim the writer is "easily" assigning "nefarious acts," especially when documentation is provided to the actual events in question. I assume you read the Houston Press article abt Obama, how "lucky" he was (to use your word) to get EVERYONE thrown off the ballot to run unopposed, and how he did that exactly. Or how Emil Jones was his Kingmaker, slapping his name on legislation on which he hadn't worked. And on and on and on. Yet, it is just one little tidbit of information on which you are hanging, completely ignoring the SUBSTANCE of the article.<BR/><BR/>Don't know why the Times article didn't work. Feel free to do a search on it - I'm sure you can find it (or the Trib article. I think the LA Times had something, too) pretty easily. TalkLeft also had something on it at one point, too. (Interestingly, Jack Ryan's ex was Jeri Ryan, the actress.)<BR/><BR/>As for the peer review, I would suggest keeping your eyes on the prize here, not focusing on the minutia, thus missing the entire point of the piece. Just a suggestion.<BR/><BR/>Gotta run. Thanks for the dialogue.Rabble Rouser Reverend Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14965609706204555067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-74068282872375370012009-02-12T15:16:00.000-05:002009-02-12T15:16:00.000-05:00"You don't think that is PERSONAL?"No, I really, r..."You don't think that is PERSONAL?"<BR/><BR/>No, I really, really don't. Questioning the factual basis for assertions in your writing is not personal in any way, shape or form. If you submitted a paper for peer review, and your peers pointed out claims that they felt needed further factual support before the paper could be published, would you automatically consider that "personal"?<BR/><BR/>"If I have provided hyperlinks in my story, it is to substantiate my claims. And it is the READER'S job to click on those links if s/he desires more information."<BR/><BR/>I completely agree. But the hyperlink you originally provided only said that a judge had ordered the records unsealed. The NYT link re Axelrod you just posted, unfortunately, doesn't work. I think it might be missing some text in the string. I would love to read more about this issue.Arturo Uihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03447359627539270032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-27071974448905398572009-02-12T14:24:00.000-05:002009-02-12T14:24:00.000-05:00Arturo, you wrote: "Your whole section on Oba...Arturo, you wrote: "Your whole section on Obama's bio is filled with many unsubstantiated assertions." <BR/><BR/>And: ". Just because Obama has been lucky in his opponents doesn't prove the deeply nefarious acts you so easily assign to him."<BR/><BR/>You don't think that is PERSONAL? Yeah, okay. I have written abt Obama for quite some time, and at this point, there are some things that are common knowledge, yet I continue to link to them for people. So, yes, it is personal.<BR/><BR/>And here is a link for you, of how Axelrod worked behind the scenes on this whole push by the Trib to get the records unsealed: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/magazine/01axelrod.t.html?_r=3&ei=5070&en=765f1fc42884f6d3&ex=1177905600&oref=slogin&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin<BR/><BR/>If I have provided hyperlinks in my story, it is to substantiate my claims. And it is the READER'S job to click on those links if s/he desires more information. <BR/><BR/>And I would be more than wiling to treat your queries as honest efforts to get to the truth if you had not begun by impugning my writing from the very first sentence. That does not seem like a "genuine" effort to engage in dialogue.<BR/><BR/>So let me be clear - Axelrod worked behind the scenes to push for the records to be unsealed in conjunction with the Chicago Tribune. While I admit I took a bit of a shortcut (since this has been discussed ad nauseum), I stand by the gist of what I wrote.Rabble Rouser Reverend Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14965609706204555067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-9556711258541426352009-02-12T13:55:00.000-05:002009-02-12T13:55:00.000-05:00"I understand it is so much easier for you to atta..."I understand it is so much easier for you to attack me than to actually look at the documentation abt Obama and how he got to where he is."<BR/><BR/>I didn't attack YOU at all. Why is any question of your Obama criticisms taken so personally?<BR/><BR/>You say to click on the "title of the article" in your post to find substantiating information on how Obama's handlers exposed Jack Ryan. You have several hyperlinks in your post, which one should I click on? I did read the Houston News piece you hyperlinked. It says a judge ordered Ryan's divorce records unsealed. Was the judge one of Obama's "handlers"?<BR/><BR/>These are genuine questions, seeking genuine answers. You'll open a lot more hearts and minds assuming the sincerity of people like me, rather than just assuming I'm out to get you personally.Arturo Uihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03447359627539270032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-20504694229395824892009-02-12T13:49:00.000-05:002009-02-12T13:49:00.000-05:00Hey, ME -Well, they report to Training Camp this w...Hey, ME -<BR/><BR/>Well, they report to Training Camp this week - yippee!! Can't wait..<BR/><BR/>Wow abt your daughter. It is so frustrating that someone who DOES have journalistic integrity ends up wanting to get out of the business because so many others, especially those higher up, have lost any semblance of integrity. <BR/><BR/>On the one hand, I hope she stays, and insists upon real journalism. On the other, I can totally understand just wanting to get out of it and doing something else.<BR/><BR/>It totally sucks, though, that people like Matthews have become so glorified. The few times I watched Hardball - before this Primary, even - I just thought he was a blowhard. He is certainly that, and much more - and I don't mean that in a good way.Rabble Rouser Reverend Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14965609706204555067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-67798528154725462622009-02-12T13:44:00.000-05:002009-02-12T13:44:00.000-05:00One more thing, Arturo - Obama wasn't LUCKY - his ...One more thing, Arturo - Obama wasn't LUCKY - his team REMOVED all of his opponents on very sketchy grounds his first time around. It has been well documented - Obama himself does not deny it.<BR/><BR/>I understand it is so much easier for you to attack me than to actually look at the documentation abt Obama and how he got to where he is. But that doesn't mean it didn't happen just because you don't want to believe it did.<BR/><BR/>And really, that's just sad. Just like Bush supporters refused to acknowledge ANYTHING negative abt Bush - exactly the same.Rabble Rouser Reverend Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14965609706204555067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-53508035421369505172009-02-12T13:41:00.000-05:002009-02-12T13:41:00.000-05:00Arturo, perhaps you don't understand that if you c...Arturo, perhaps you don't understand that if you click on the TITLE of the article in my post, you will actually get the article I reference. You don't even have to search for anything - I put it all right there, including the info that Obama's handlers exposed the sealed court documents on his Rep. opponent. <BR/><BR/>I ALWAYS substantiate my claims with verifiable sources, so your assertion is incorrect.Rabble Rouser Reverend Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14965609706204555067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-86145245030676136602009-02-12T13:27:00.000-05:002009-02-12T13:27:00.000-05:00Amy- I know, I'm counting the days until Spring ...Amy- I know, I'm counting the days until Spring Training and the games begin. Regarding the drug use...it was being done on every single team and anyone who says it wasn't...bull. <BR/><BR/>Chris Matthews is a twit and the sad thing is, this is journalism these days,nothing but opinion,no fact, no journalistic integrity. This is difficult for me to say, my daughter is a journalist. She reports mainly on City Council stuff, that's her beat, but I feel so bad for her with the media being what it is today. Besides the newspapers all taking a dive and her job not being secure, I can't imagine...no I KNOW she wouldn't report something in a skewed manner in order to protect her job. She's already talking about getting out of journalism and going into some type of consulting career or possibly getting a law degree. I can't blame her.Mary Ellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07835150057881066641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-79926115187385606342009-02-12T13:11:00.000-05:002009-02-12T13:11:00.000-05:00Your whole section on Obama's bio is filled with m...Your whole section on Obama's bio is filled with many unsubstantiated assertions. It would be helpful, for example, if you offered some evidence that Obama's "handlers" actually exposed Jack Ryan. Just because Obama has been lucky in his opponents doesn't prove the deeply nefarious acts you so easily assign to him.Arturo Uihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03447359627539270032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-42810708089904727512009-02-12T10:45:00.000-05:002009-02-12T10:45:00.000-05:00Hey, ME -How is is that Chris Matthews has a job? ...Hey, ME -<BR/><BR/>How is is that Chris Matthews has a job? I mean, really - I have NEVER gotten the appeal of that guy. He says the absolute STUPIDEST things, and tries to act like he's the smartest kid in the class afterward. It's ridiculous!<BR/><BR/>And STREET people? Okay. WTH is the mater with him? And what does that say abt MSNBC that HE is one of their FEATURED "journalists" (and I use that term VERY loosely when it comes to him). Holy smokes.<BR/><BR/>A-Rod - I know. Allegedly, he only used them for two years, and he obviously does have tremendous natural talent. And that's just the thing - he DOES have tremendous natural talent. I appreciate that the expectations of him may have been daunting, especially to a younger person who was a bit caught up, but still. Unfortunately, the sport is just riddled with people who use (and honestly, that whole report was SO biased - they mainly targeted Yankees players, and one other team. Since Mitchell is a BOARD MEMBER of the Red Sox, they didn't look at them at ALL. Pathetic.). It makes me sick. <BR/><BR/>I don't know what the Yankees are going to do - obviously, it was before he ever came to the team, but I wonder if he lied abt his previous use? That might be reason enough to violate his contract...<BR/><BR/>Spring Training is almost here. I am SO glad. I need me some baseball...Rabble Rouser Reverend Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14965609706204555067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208401365281331903.post-61560602595743670922009-02-12T10:07:00.000-05:002009-02-12T10:07:00.000-05:00Oh yes...the "chattering class", no arrogance ther...Oh yes...the "chattering class", no arrogance there, eh? They are so entrenched in their elitism, they have no idea what they sound like. <BR/><BR/>Another example of this elitism, I was watching Chris Matthews yesterday (for about 4 minutes, which was all I could take) and he was blathering on and on about how great it was that Obama was going out and speaking to...get this..."the street people". I couldn't believe he said that! I don't have an exact quote and I checked to see if the transcripts from yesterday's show was up yet (it's not), but it went something like this, "Isn't it great that Obama is going out and talking about (he may have said "selling") the stimulus package to the street people. You know...the people in the street." <BR/><BR/>I wish I had a pencil and paper in hand in order to get the whole thing, but it smacked of elitism. I guess Matthews doesn't think of himself as one of those "street people". <BR/><BR/>I'm sure the transcript from that show will be up soon and I doubt they'll try to hide it because they are so into themselves they don't realize how insulting they are being to us "street people". Honestly, when he said that I felt like Oliver Twist or something. "Please mister, may I have some of that pork you're dishing out?" <BR/><BR/>Oh and A-Rod? Ugh...that just pisses me off. You know how much I love baseball and I'm so sick of hearing these guys who are making millions of dollars a year after getting to where they are by taking steroids and walking over the backs of <I>real</I> athletes by pumping up illegally to get the big contracts. I don't accept his "apology" and I hope is career is over. I also pray that the White Sox won't grab him and stick him on our roster...that would make me re-think my season tickets.Mary Ellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07835150057881066641noreply@blogger.com